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Remy Martin VSOP

marknopfler — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:38:29 GMT

Couple of quick queries.

If a bottle of Remy Martin VSOP is left unopened, how long does it last?

How does one tell when a particular bottle was brought to the market?

What do the characters 'E 32 B' mean? These are present on the bottom of the outer cardboard case of the bottle.

Thanks

Wine Tasters Can't Duplicate

Ed Rasimus — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:34:20 GMT

>>
Hi Andy

As a man from the other side of Offas dyke, I am neutral. England have been
crap, headless chickens come to mind. The NZ lineout has been a bit iffy,
but with Carter on song I see no problem.

Wales Argies could be a stunner, but they have relaid the pitch!! and with
all the rain........................

OT
Craggy Range sluicings 2008 Pinot Noir has had rave rev iews and I have just
bought 6, go with the Xmas turkey.

Hope your are well, Solihull slurpers still going strong

JT

A few Loire Chenins

santiago — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:02:32 GMT

"Bi!!" wrote in
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Flint, and actually in french is "pierre � fusil". I always have problems
with "de" and "�" in french ;)

s.

[TN] Bandol and MC Riesling

Mark Lipton — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:47:17 GMT

I've been remiss in keeping up with some of wines we've recently opened.
Over a few nights, we had with dinner:

1998 La Bastide Blanche Bandol Cuv�e Fontan�ou
nose: brambly black fruits, earth, slightly medicinal/Brett
palate: medium body, high acidity, fine tannins, medicinal finish

Not the most complex or compelling Bandol of my experience, but a very
respectable wine which went quite well with lamb and, later, with pizza.

With a Saturday dinner of roast chicken and risotto Milanese, I opened:

2008 Muller-Catoir Riesling Trocken
nose: slight minerality, a hint of peach and lemon
palate: crisp, balanced, stone fruit and citrus

Once again, I am impressed with the versatility and food-friendliness of
Riesling and this has to be one of the best Trockens of my experience
for its nicely fruity character and balanced acidity. I haven't had too
many '08 Rieslings yet, but those I have had have impressed.

Mark Lipton
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2006 Latour Meursault

Bi!! — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:45:37 GMT

Went to a favorite place for dinner last night. Started with a glass
of NV Veuve Clicquot with Amuse of Jambon and Asparagus followed by a
starter of veal sweetbread "lasagne". The Veuve was crisp and light
with pronounced apple and lemon flavors. A bit short on the finish
and not as good as I remember it from past bottles.

Dinner was Dover with lemon caper butter. I opted for the 2006 Louis
Latour Meursault. Nose of lemon and oranges. Not much oak on the
nose or palate. The wine was a bit thin but showed a remarkable
minerality much like GC Chablis. Not a lot of complexity but an
enjoyable wine for under $40 on a restaurant wine list. "B"

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On Nov 19, 10:06�am, "ViLco" wrote:

OK, that did it. I'm booking a flight to Italy asap! Great response
and one of the reasons that I keep reading this NG. Thanks Vilco!

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Jaboulet La Chapelle

Bill S. — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:33:28 GMT

Thank you for taking the time to make your post. I have several bottles
from 1988-1990, but have never opened any. I guess I need to.

Mike Hagley
"Bill S." wrote in message
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I�ve been a big fan of Jaboulet�s Northern Rhone wines since the late
1970s, and it seemed time to do a retrospective on the Hermitage La
Chapelle.

I had met Girard Jaboulet on several occasions when he came to
Vancouver with another member of the Primum Familiae Vini, an
organization of family owned wineries, Etienne Hugel. Together they
made an unforgettable pair, with a comedic routine that delighted
audiences while imparting fascinating information about their wines
and winemaking. In 1997, Gerard died tragically young and there is
some feeling that the wind went out of thee family winemaking sails
shortly afterward, when they began making less than stellar wines in
vintages like 1998 and 1999 when their other competitors were getting
much more memorable results. For that reason I included a couple of
younger wines to see if this was true and to take a small look at what
the new owners, the Frey family, were doing with the properties.

The sale of this two century old wine concern in 2005 surprised me,
and ejected them from the PFV as being no longer family owned. One of
the new family, Caroline Frey, the winemaker at La Lagune in
Bordeaux, is now also the winemaker at Jaboulet.

So I set up a dinner to look at the wines of this properly, and the
friends I invited were able to assemble a very nice survey vertical of
the wines for us to enjoy together.

With pan seared diver�s scallops on a bed of black rice with roasted
tomato vinaigrette:

2004 Chevalier de Sterimberg � had to start with a white Hermitage,
this one a blend of something like 65% Marsanne, and 35% Roussanne.
It had some colour, and a killer nose of dried orange peel and a waxy
floral element, and the wine was clean and long with excellent
balance. Best white Hermitage I�ve tasted in a along time.

With duck confit with sour cherry sauce:

2004 � a controversial vintage as Robert Parker stated that this wine
was not to be made, presumably acting on advice he received from the
winery. He stated that all of the grapes would be used for the new
(from 2001) second wine, La Petite Chapelle. In fact the grand vin was
made in 2004 (maybe a change of heat on the part of the owners after
looking at the balance sheet?) and we got to taste it. It had a
decent enough nose with some white pepper and ripe fruit, a bit
herbal, but was tannic, lean and green, not a wine I would be happy to
have bought to drink a decade down the road.

1999 � another ripe nose, but this time no pepper, sweeter than the
2004, and (thankfully) no green notes, and better fruit on palate, but
nonetheless still and unsatisfying wine a bit on the lightweight side
and finishing a tad short.

With wild mushrooms on grilled pollenta with chevre chive sauce:

1997 � ahhh � back into the �real stuff�! Dark colour, some heat in
the nose, maybe a tad on the sweet side in the nose with lots of berry
fruit and a little spiciness, on palate sweet and ripe with very good
length. Good wine that needs time.

1991 � big jump here because I didn�t think that the good vintages in
the mid 90s were ready for prime time yet. This vintage, sometimes a
bit overlooked by people more familiar with Bordeaux vintages, was
excellent in the Northern Rhone. The wine showed an even darker
colour than the 97, and had a nice slightly funky nose with some raw
meat and anise, that was showing what you expect with a bit of
maturity. Clean, bright and powerful in the mouth, very long finish a
slight bit sweet; it was a hard choice between these two wines, the
one ready to drink now, the other with a good future.

With hazelnut crusted sweetbreads, crispy pancetta and Port reduction:

1990 � this was without doubt the Latour of the Rhone. The wine was
very dark, and sheeted down the sides of the glass. There was meat and
pepper as well as an enticing melange of fruit and maybe a hint of
cocoa in the nose. Huge in the mouth, a weighty wine, but also
impeccably balanced with a truly exceptional length in the finish.
Very youthful � if you have this wine, it is on the way up and you
shouldn�t be tempted to broach it too soon as patience will certainly
be well rewarded. For me to get to taste this wine and a 1983 Palmer
all within 3 days makes it a week to truly remember!

1988 � white pepper here, as well as a hint of mint and a very
interesting herbal mix. This wine was elegant, fully mature, and very
pleasurable now.

With rack of lamb, minted gnocchi and roasted garlic jus:

1983 � a bit of a difference of opinion between Parker and other
reviewers on this, with RP feeling that the wine was becoming austere
and tannic. This bottle showed a sort of wet stone and coffee nose,
very inviting, and was clean in the mouth, neither tannic (though some
were present) nor astringent. It was quite enjoyable, though possibly
now in slow decline.

1982 � not as good a nose as the 83, a little dirtier and more
attenuated, the flavours a bit dilute, this bottle lacked fruit and
was drying out. This is contrary to my experience with the wine, but
then I haven�t popped a cork on one of these in awhile. I will soon,
to double check our experience � it may just have been a poor bottle.

With cheese:

1979 � a warm sweet pudding sort of nose, which I always find quite
endearing, elegant on palate, maybe getting a tad tired but still an
interesting wine with a slightly high terminal acidity. I�ll make a
mental note to pop a cork on one of these too.

1978 Dom. de Thalabert Crozes Hermitage � I had this one served blind
to see what people would make of it. Normally, a Crozes is a
secondary wine in terms of quality to an Hermitage, but of all the
wines made in the region, this is perhaps the best and also the
longest lived. Jaboulet also make a negotiant version with fruit
sourced from other properties, called Les Jalets, but it is not as
serious a wine, nor nearly the ager that Thalabert often is. I�d
worried a bit about this wine perhaps being a bit long in the tooth,
but it turned out well � a reasonably fresh nose with a little cedar,
good colour, supple in the mouth with good length, fairly sweet but
with lots of acidity at the end. Obviously, if you happen to own this
wine, don�t tarry about drinking it, but you still have a reasonable
expectation of a very presentable wine when you do enjoy it.

I feel obliged to append a short note on a couple of wines that a
friend, also dining at the restaurant, had enjoyed that night, passing
our table a glass of each as he departed.

1983 Ch. La Mission Haut Brion � slightly funky nose with hint of tar,
but great concentration and length.

1983 Ch. Pichon Lalande � an excellent uplifted nose of fruit and
smoke, a well integrated wine, at peak, with class and elegance, and a
supple feel. I preferred this wine. Wish I�d had the opportunity to
taste this against the 83 Palmer!

Savennieres : Clos de Papillon

pk — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:53:27 GMT

"Ronin" wrote in message
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http://www.francethisway.com/coqauvinrecipe.php

The real trick is converting the cooking juices to a intense glossy sauce by
reduction and thickening with Beurre manie

pk

Drappier, Beaucastel, Le Stanze, San Giorgio Palmer, Burmester

Bill S. — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:12:56 GMT

Hi Bill, thanks as always for the notes.

On 11/16/2009 04:12 PM, Bill S. wrote:

Do you know what this translates to in hl/ha?

I have many fond memories of the 82 Palmer, but one in particular
involves a lost weekend in the Catskills that featured a mag of this
juice with dinner and endless other libations; I remember staggering
through the dark for a 2 am dip in the freezing river. The next (rather
headachey) day we went back for trout, and were amazed to have survived
the experience. I revisited the place this past summer, with the same
hosts, and am still amazed! The joys of fearless youth.

Anyway that 82 was a real classic.

-E

Wine Advocate mailed via New Zealand?

Yves — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:46:06 GMT

Dear all,

having subscribed to RP's Wine Advocate some years ago, I am intrigued by
the fact that for some time, the envelope has a stamp of the Auckland Mail
Center, NZ.

I am not the most ecological person on planet Earth, but isn't it
ecologically irresponsable to have a magazine printed in the USA, shipped to
NZ an eventually sent "par avion" (by air mail) to Europe?

For the sake of curiosity, could other subscribers check if their copies of
the Wine Advocate make a round-the-world trip before arriving in your
letter-box?

Thanks

Yves

Cal Chards, Burg and Bordeaux

Bi!! — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:34:22 GMT

This time of year I spend ost of my time at my farm so we invited a
few hunting buddies and their wives for the weekend. Dinner was
prepped by all. Started with a light seafood soup with Bay scallops,
shrmp and Cod. I opened a 2007 Hanzell Sonoma Chardonnay. Nicely
balanced, good ripe fruit with nice minerality. A bit of honeysuckle
on the nose with clean citrus and stones on the palate. I bought this
wine at a deep discount for $38. A solid "B"

With wild mushroom risotto garnished with duck confit I opened a 2004
Perrot Minot Chambertin VV. Nice nose of blueberry and spicebox.
Plenty of black cherry on the palate and not over extracted. No green
meanies and fairly plush tannins. Needs a few more years to come
together. "B+"

WIth grilled espresso dusted beef tenderloin with I opened a 2000
Chateau Pavie. Deep and plush showing it's right bank roots and new
age maker. Very rich, ripe black fruits, blackberry, blueberry,
cassis and black coffee. A hint of sage. "A"

TN Bonnes-Mares 1990, Comte de Vogue

cwdjrxyz — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:59:37 GMT

"Mark Lipton" wrote in message
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Mark,

I am definitely looking forward for the Gl�hwein versus Eiswein encounter
next April! By the way, I vaguely remember that Bouchard from Beaune had
performed some kind of test by handing over half a dozen of a Beaune 1er cr�
to various journalists who were to store the wines in their own cellars (or
other storage facilities) in order to have a comparative tasting about 8
years later.

The result was that the differences between "perfect" conditions and cellars
with high humidity and some temperature variations over the seasons were
very limited.

I asked the question initially because I am intrigued by the fact that
ageing Bordeaux (and also top Rh�ne, Duero and most Italian reds) is almost
always a safe bet, whereas Burgundy seems to be predictably unpredictable.

Regards,

Yves

Latest issue of Consumer Reports has article on bargain wines

aesthete8 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:39:08 GMT

"aesthete8" wrote in message
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| http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...ew/wine-ov.htm

Thanks for all of your trouble but I am not paying $26 to see
the results of this ... er ... contest. You might condense the
findings, if they have any value.

pavane

2005 William Fevre Chablis Fourchaume 1er

DaleW — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:44:47 GMT

On Nov 14, 9:38*am, "Bi!!" wrote:

Sounds great. I don't have this, though I've got the 05 MdTonnere and
Bougros- hope they're as good!
Happy Hunting!